AM: OK. I actually have a product this time. I feel like every time I come on here, I say something vague, like spring cleaning or taking walks.

LG: It must be a Washington, DC, thing, because Gilad does the same thing when he joins us.

AM: It’s terrible. But I have a laptop stand that I’ve been using called the Moft laptop stand that sticks onto the bottom of your laptop, and it’s only 3 ounces, so it’s super light. I was just visiting my vaccinated parents for a few days, for the first time in a long time, and I brought my laptop to do work, and the stand made it feel like I could maintain my posture, which I really appreciated. So that is my recommendation.

LG: How tall is it? How much of a boost does it give the machine?

AM: Well, I’m looking at it right now, and I’m terrible at estimating these things, but it’s probably about 5 inches.

LG: Oh yeah. Look at that. It’s pretty nifty. I’m looking at a photo on the internet right now.

AM: Yeah. I like it.

LG: It’s pretty sleek, and it looks like it would be easy to pack. It’s basically like the smart stand that you get with your iPad, the smart cover. It looks like a version of that, but for your MacBook.

AM: Yeah. And it just lives on the bottom of my laptop now.

MC: Very cool.

LG: Surely nice.

MC: Totally getting one.

LG: That’s cool.

MC: Lauren, what is your recommendation?

LG: My recommendation is spring cleaning.

MC: Five stars.

LG: Five stars. No. OK. So my recommendation, I have to say with a caveat, I’m not making any commitments here, but I started using the Peloton marathon training program. Some of you may know that a few of us at WIRED are Peloton users. In fact, I just made a video about it online, on the Twitter. So go to WIRED’s Twitter account and you can find that video. But you don’t have to have the Peloton treadmill or bike in order to use the mobile app. And so on the mobile app, there are a bunch of different workouts and programs, and one of the programs is the Road to 26.2. It breaks it into two parts. It’s really designed for first-time marathon runners. I have never run a marathon before. I’ve run half marathons, and whenever I finished a half marathon, I said to myself, I don’t think I could do that twice in a row. So this would be a really big thing if I did it. But I just started using the marathon training app for fun, and so far, I am enjoying it.

MC: Nice. When is your first marathon going to be then?

LG: Well …

MC: Public declaration of intent, it’s very important.

LG: I guess if I were to do it, it’d probably be in the fall, like San Francisco in the fall …

AM: Yeah. Do San Francisco.

LG: … which is in September, and it looks like a really, really fun race. But I don’t know. I did actually talk to our former boss, Nick Thompson, who is a big marathon runner—some of you may know that. We’ll link to his stories in the show notes, because he’s written some great stories about it. Annoyingly, he just has gotten faster and faster with age. But I said to him recently, “So Nic,k I’m looking at this program and I’m wondering, is it normal to think you want to do a marathon and then look at the program and think, oh, this sucks.” And he said, “No, the training is the fun part. The training is when you enter into this meditative state. If you don’t want to do the training, it’s probably not for you.” And I was like, oh, OK. So I’m trying the training to see if I can achieve that meditative state.